Quantum Innovation And Artificial Human Intelligence: Dinis Guarda YouTube Interview With Anders Indset

Anders Indset, Founder and CEO of Njordis Group discusses quantum economy, AI, leadership, blockchain, simulations, Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI), technological paradoxes, and philosophical challenges in the latest episode of the Dinis Guarda Podcast. The podcast is powered by Businessabc.net, Citiesabc.com, Wisdomia.ai, and Sportsabc.org.

Anders Indset, a Norwegian philosopher, bestselling author, and deep-tech investor, brings over 20 years of expertise in technology, business, and leadership. As the Founder and CEO of Njordis Group, he leads a venture capital and advisory firm dedicated to supporting technology companies. He also leads the Quantum Economy Institute and collaborates with organisations such as Terra Quantum AG and the Global Blockchain Initiative to foster innovation in quantum and blockchain technologies. 

Among his acclaimed works are The Quantum Economy and Wild Knowledge, translated into over ten languages. His recent book, The Viking Code – The Art and Science of Norwegian Success, was published in 2024, with his next release, The Singularity Paradox – Bridging Humanity and AI, scheduled for March 2025.

During the interview with Dinis Guarda, Anders Indset discusses the philosophical and practical aspects of leadership, the importance of action as a foundational human quality, and the risks posed by technological integration, particularly in relation to losing touch with our humanity:

“At the beginning, there wasn’t light, there was an action. That is the activation—something happened, an activity—and that is the essence of leadership.

How can we have active agents? How can we have leaders that take action, anticipate future scenarios, and build futures? To me, the future is a verb—to future is something we do.

We are in a situation where we can actively, like no generation before, influence our reality. We have access to amazing technology, resources, and opportunities.”

Exploring AI, simulation, and humanity’s future

Anders Indset delves into the philosophical and scientific challenges of AI, exploring the paradoxes of technological progress, consciousness, and the future of humanity.

“We challenged physicists to prove through math or science that we are not living in a simulation. It turns out it’s very difficult because of the challenges quantum theory presents to how we perceive the world.”

He also explains Nick Bostrom’s three scenarios for the simulation hypothesis:

“One: We will never reach technological maturity because we’ll go extinct before we do.
Two: Humanity as a species simply stops trying to reach technological maturity.
Three: Progress is possible, and then it’s just a matter of time before we build simulations.

If progress is possible, and given the exponential advances in technology, it’s much more likely we are already living in a simulation than being part of base reality. Elon Musk referred to this as a one-in-billion chance that we live in base reality.”

Talking about the Importance of Perception, he said:

Philosophers from Plato’s Allegory of the Cave to René Descartes’ ‘evil deceiver’ and Bishop Berkeley’s ‘subjective idealism’ all touch on the idea that what we perceive may not be reality but is real because it gives us sensory experiences.”

If we were to create simulations within simulations, entropy might eventually halt the process unless there’s an external intervention. This entropy could mirror the universe’s physical limits.”

AGI would be an intelligence encompassing the totality of human knowledge and abilities, but once achieved, it could skyrocket into unpredictable states, raising questions about control and the nature of humanity.

We argue for the development of Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI), where we enhance human intelligence but retain the essence of what it means to be human. This involves acknowledging that consciousness and agency cannot be fully replicated by computational means.

If we could rebuild every neuron in a brain, would that entity have a mind? Where does the magic of thought arise? These unanswered questions preserve the unique essence of being human.

A thinker without a paradox is like a lover without passion. As long as there’s the potential for the unknown, there’s potential for progress and life. If everything becomes static, humanity will enter a state of homeostasis—a dead system. The challenge is to leave room for the unknown and the possibility of growth.”

The Viking Code: Success through values and teamwork

Anders Indset’s The Viking Code explores how Norwegian values blend individualism with teamwork, redefining success as progress, learning, and living purposefully:

“This book is about living a life where you fill your life with intrinsic motivation to live a fulfilled life, taking back the agency to actively shape your journey.

Norway, a country of just 5.5 million people, has produced some of the world’s greatest athletes in sports like soccer, tennis, golf, and triathlon. This isn’t just about talent but rooted in values and a sense of collectivism.

Norwegian athletes, even in individual sports, exhibit a strong sense of team play. They succeed not just because of their individual skills but because of the collective culture that uplifts everyone.

The results are an outcome of a process, not solely based on the goal. The quality of the marathon lies in your next step, not just in crossing the finish line.

We should have goals and visions, but most of us won’t build rockets or win Nobel Prizes. Still, we can lead active, fulfilled lives by setting micro ambitions for today, tomorrow, and the next day.

The Viking Code is about Lebensfreude, the vitality of life. It’s taking back the agency to actively shape and create your own life, rather than merely reacting to tasks and distractions.

The Declaration of Independence is important, but equally so is the Declaration of Interdependence. We thrive as individuals in the context of community.”

The Quantum Economy and its intersection with AI

Anders Indset discusses his book The Quantum Economy, which he wrote in 2018, providing a philosophical and futuristic perspective on AI technology, science, and capitalism.

He said, “I started to realise that a lot of the philosophical questions I had been thinking about were all of a sudden on the tables of CEOs and leaders around the world. These philosophical questions had practical implications for businesses.

The Quantum Economy was basically an outlook of where we are on AI today. It was written back in 2018 in German and foresaw a point where science and philosophy would enter a dynamic dance. Nobel lectures would come out of corporations, not Academia because the money and talents would be with the exponential tech companies.“

He also explained the Connection Between Quantum Physics and Business:

“From the theoretical foundation of quantum theory 100 years ago, we’re now looking at practical implications—how this foundation of physics can be applied to real-life scenarios, including business.

I envisioned a 10-year period from 2020 to 2030 where we would see exponential progress in these technologies. I did not foresee a pandemic, the wars, or the speed of change. In retrospect, my radical thesis might have been too conservative.”

Anders Indset discusses the convergence of quantum technology and AI, exploring its impact on the economy, society, and human progress:

“The economy is the operating system of our society. If it doesn’t function, progress stalls, and we shift from exploring the potential to merely surviving. The economy operates on two parameters: technological progress and human creativity.”

Talking about the Role of Quantum Technology in AI, he said:

“In the near future, particularly by 2025, we’ll see hybrid computers where quantum algorithms are run in the cloud to optimise AI scenarios.”

Quantum technology is not separate from AI; rather, it enhances AI, creating what he terms “Quantum AI” or “Artificial Intelligence on steroids.

Quantum technology is more than just quantum computers. It encompasses a range of applications in hardware and software, though stable quantum computers capable of revolutionary computation are still years away.”

He also explains the Quantum mechanics and philosophical implications:

“Quantum physics presents an incompleteness in how we perceive reality, especially with concepts like the observer effect and the collapse of the wave function.

Even Richard Feynman speculated that a true simulation of the universe would require quantum physics, indicating its foundational role in understanding reality.”

Anders also talks about the concept of a Quantum Economy:

“Quantum economy uses the philosophical and scientific principles of quantum mechanics as a foundation for understanding and evolving our economic systems.

If we can theoretically build everything we conceive of, the question shifts from feasibility to desirability: Should we build it? What are the risks of replacing ourselves?”

For the evolution of thought in Quantum Economy he said:

“Back in 2018, I envisioned a dynamic path for capitalism. Today, this idea has evolved into exploring the intersection of science and philosophy, or ‘sci-phi,’ to understand and navigate these challenges.”

Quantum, leadership, and blockchain ventures

As the interview continues, Anders Indset discusses his role in advancing quantum technology, leadership education, and blockchain innovation:

“I was curious about blockchain as an infrastructure technology. I wanted to understand the asset structures of Bitcoin, business use cases, and whether there is something substantial behind tokens and meme coins.

That is run by my business partner. I co-own the company, but I do very little work there. What we do is put some of my philosophical thinking into educational programs for larger corporates on topics like AI, leadership, and ecology.

With the Quantum Economy, it has evolved around the book. We are gathering a community and trying to support various initiatives. It’s not a big business model; it’s more about my interest in quantum technology and the philosophical notions tied to it.

I spent a lot of time with my colleague Florian Neukart, who is on the board of Terra Quantum and my co-author. We exchange ideas and thoughts on how quantum tech and the quantum field are evolving.

I spend time facilitating events and gathering the community to be part of the dialogue and get the latest updates on research papers and progress in the technology.

It’s my way to stay close to the developments from research centres and organisations. I try to be amongst the people who get information and updates at an early stage.

I am curious about how quantum technology will evolve, who the leaders will be, and what the business models will look like. Through the Quantum Economy, I aim to shape and build a part of that dialogue.”

Anders Indset also reflects on leadership, the importance of action, and maintaining humanity in an age of technological and existential challenges:

“At the beginning, there wasn’t light; there was an action. It was an activity, something happened. How can we have active agents, leaders who take action, anticipate future scenarios, and build futures?

The essence of activation becomes so important. We have access to amazing technology and resources. Therefore, it’s not just about existing but about actively engaging and shaping the world around us.”